Stalking behaviour? Given she regularly frequented bars where
her separated husband was known to be, as well as frequenting them
while still married albeit with other men, I hardly call it stalking
behaviour if he is where she is at the same time. Did you know she
paid for a barfine for Paul as a Xmas present, months after their
breakup? She even played pool with him AFTER the infamous public
slap that caused her to fear for her life according to Karl Who?.
Hardly sounds like she was in fear of Paul or felt she was being
stalked.
I think JJ would have
resolved the issue differently if it wasn;t for Karl putting in his two
cents worth trying to play the big brother in law and make up for some
of his own insecurity issues by doing so; MR JJ wanting to screw JJ and
Paul at the same time but in different ways and DCWCL sniffing around
her like a puppy in heat.
As for slapping
her, not my
style but quite acceptable in Filipino circles, even my own father in
law advised I do that to keep my own wife in check (never have and never
will). There is slapping and there is wife beating and few seem
able to differentiate. There are some women who get off on it and
JJ was not your average, straight Filipina so who's to say it wasn;t
something that turned her on? Or that she didn;t bait him
purposely? Not my problem and I don;t hold my values and behaviour
to be any better than others but like I said, I don;t do it and I don;t
think it is right but that ain't my karma.
Evil Troll <putridtroll@...> wrote:
Perry, you are speaking from the heart and angry about what happened
to your friend, so I will not flame you or tell you you are wrong. I
do have some questions.
Paul, himself, has admitted slapping JJ. What, in your opinion,
should she have done in response to this? What should Karl have
done? Also, I have it from a reliable source that the "slapping
incident" actually took place three months after Paul and JJ
separated. Can you confirm or deny this? And if this is true, isn't
it evidence of stalking behavior on the part of Paul?
--- In PhilippineNightmares@yahoogroups.com, perry gamsby
<perrygamsby999@...> wrote:
>
> And you know all this because...? You're a real friggin' Einstein
aren;t you? If he was wanted for child support he would never have
had his passport renewed and he wouldn't have been able to leave for
Australia but taken back to the US. He admitted all along he had
slapped JJ and that he was wrong to do so. As for this Karl the
Crippled Champion character, he is lower than a snakes arse in my
book. Who the fuck was he before he met Paul? Nobody! World Hand
Cycle Champion? Big fucking deal! I was a World Full Contact Stick
Fighting Champion, still doesn;t mean I have to be nasty, mean,
bitter and stab my mates in the back. Did you get that Karl? Him and
the drunken child whore chasing liar (DCWCL) and that new Mr JJ are a
shower of shite without a shred of moral fibre between the lot of
them. A real shower of shite they are.
>
> There, that should get the discussion going How about that for
insight Putrid? Hehehehehehehehehehe Of course this is all just for
entertainment value. Hahahahahahahah! Are we having fun yet?
>
>
> januarybaby_99 <septmorn89@...> wrote:
> First of all Paul had violated the law in the Philippines for
overstaying for 2 years. He also abused JJ during their marriage. It
seems Paul is trying to tell that Karl is up to no good and he had
caused the breaking up his marriage with JJ. Any man who treat his
wife with respect, no one will ever convinced her to leave his wife.
Obviously Karl, had seem how Paul treats JJ and gotten concern about
it. I realize, Paul had lied to me when I was arguing with him about
JJ. I ask him why he doesn't help JJ's family and he replied to me,
JJ doesn't have any family and she was adopted!
> I ponder why Paul doesn't wan't to go back to US? it is clearly
that he is wanted by the DA because he fail to pay up child support.
He is wanted in US and Philippines doesn't want him back. Paul had no
place to go.
>
> --- In PhilippineNightmares@yahoogroups.com, "Evil Troll"
<putridtroll@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings All:
> >
> > On a number of groups online, as well as a few topics that have
been
> > started here, my personal life, the continued operation of these
> > forums and my departure from the Philippines have all been topics
for
> > discussion. Now, I am here to clear up each of these subjects.
> >
> > Each of you may post your thoughts and input, but please keep it
> > civil. If you wish to attack me, please do so by PM through the
> > forums.
> >
> > A while back, a guy by the name of Karl Livingstone (You will
find
> > out who he is a bit later) decided it was in his best interest to
> > post information on various Yahoo Groups regarding my personal
life
> > with J.J. That was his choice, although it was the beginning of
the
> > end for our (J.J. and I) relationship, as well our business,
which we
> > had been building for almost three (3) years.
> >
> > Fairly recently (Tuesday,the 17th of January), I was arrested by
the
> > Bureau of Immigration, Cebu Office. I was taken to the
Immigration
> > office where I was questioned over and over regarding what
> > business "I" did in Cebu. Incidentally, I had no business in
Cebu,
> > J.J. did. However, I did promote the Philippines, specifically
Cebu,
> > through several websites on the internet, including this one. Of
> > course, Immigration didn't give a damn about that when they were
> > fabricating false charges (which I never saw) about me. Do note,
the
> > ONLY reason I was asked to leave, was due to being an overstay.
We
> > (J.J. and I) NEVER ran any sort of meet-a-Filipina type business,
nor
> > were we EVER involved with any sort of related sites where we
would
> > make introductions for others.
> >
> > The funny part is, that I was never formally charged with
anything. I
> > was simply an overstaying (two-year) alien, which still means I
was
> > breaking the law though. That is I went 24 months without paying
my
> > extension fees for my visas. This alone is a deportable offence,
> > depending on what the Director of Immigration wishes to do about
it.
> > (He could have let it go after I paid the fees, allowing me back
in
> > the country.) Unfortunately, this, along with Karl Livingstone
> > posting private information about J.J. and I, as well as
encouraging
> > my wife to 'rat' me out to Immigration and by him making false
> > accusations about me online, I was ultimately forced to leave the
> > Philippines, although it was "voluntarily".
> >
> > The Immigration offical with whom I spoke with regarding this
matter
> > was Geronimo Rosas, the Director of Immigration in Cebu in
Mandaue
> > City. On the first day of me being held in the cell, Immigration
told
> > me that all I had to do was to pay the fines owed (which I did),
then
> > I only had to be outside the country for 30 days. So, I purchased
a
> > ticket good for 60 days, allowing me a bit of time to visit
friends I
> > have in Australia. (The return ticket was scheduled to take me
back
> > to Cebu on March 21st.) Now you know why I went to Australia,
rather
> > than returning to the states.
> >
> > However, upon reading the newpaper the following day (Friday, the
> > 20th of January), then asking the Director if what I read was
true, I
> > found out that someone had, indeed, changed his mind regarding my
> > case ... a lifetime ban recommendation. Unfortunately, this was
after
> > I had already purchased the ticket to Australia. At that point, I
had
> > no time prior my departure to change the destination, dates, etc.
> > Naive me truly believed that I would be allowed back in the
> > Philippines, after a 30 day mandatory absence. Now, I don't know
if I
> > will ever be allowed back in the Philippines, the country I
called my
> > home for 3 years.
> >
> > On a positive note, many of the Immigration officers and staff in
> > Cebu were quite accommodating. They allowed me to return to the
> > CebuTours.com office (twice) to shower and to fetch my bags,
which
> > would fly with me to other points around the globe. Furthermore,
the
> > guards would fetch cigarettes (a habit I began while being locked
up
> > in the big house), food, etc. for me at my request. They never
asked
> > for one cent to do so, but I paid each of the ones who did that,
as I
> > felt as though they should not have to do it for nothing.
> >
> > Also, a number of friends who did care, came to visit me while I
was
> > being held in the Immigration cell. Others called. One friend
even
> > came ALL the way from Mindanao just to see and help me, as soon
as
> > she heard about me being held there. This was truly appreciated
as it
> > made me feel like I was alive again.
> >
> > Now, who is this Karl Livingstone fellow? Karl Livingstone is my
> > Aussie brother-in-law, J.J.'s sister's husband, who happens to be
in
> > a wheelchair due to an accident he had about 3 years ago, in
Perth,
> > Australia. J.J. and I introduced them (Karl and Daphnie) when
Karl
> > was here on his first trip from Oz (January, 2005), as Daphnie
> > (J.J.'s sister) was with us on an occasion when they were both in
the
> > office. Karl had been involved with and was considering taking
> > another Filipina to Australia. (J.J. and I let him know that girl
was
> > no good, by the way. Sometimes, how I wish I could turn back
time.
> > LOL)
> >
> > Upon Karl's return from Oz, J.J. and I assisted Karl with his
> > paperwork to marry Daphnie, as well as J.J. helping them with the
> > wedding reception. So, now that is a bit more information about
Karl
> > than most of you may have known, isn't it? There is more.
> >
> > J.J. came to the Immigration office one afternoon, at my request.
She
> > was, I had hoped anyway, going to help me sort out my situation
so I
> > would be able to remain in the Philippines. However, she made it
a
> > point to tell me that she wanted Karl's advice prior to doing so.
She
> > went downstairs to chat with Karl, upon his arrival to the
> > Immigration Office. After chatting with him for a bit, they left,
> > Karl, Daphnie and J.J. She never did tell me that she would not
help
> > me, throughout the rest of that day. I had sent her text messages
> > over and over asking her what would happen to me. Of course, now
I
> > know why, as it all comes together now.
> >
> > Back to me: I am currently in the land of Oz, presently about six
(6)
> > hours from Sydney. However, I will be heading to other areas of
> > Australia soon to visit. So, I suppose this hasn't been such a
bad
> > thing to happen to me, with the exception of being banned from
(my
> > home) the Philippines, the country I have loved for so many
years.
> > I'm not happy, but I am quite sure others are.
> >
> > If anyone has any specific questions of me regarding this, which
you
> > would rather not post on the forums, please send me a PM through
the
> > forums, as I am unable to regularly check my email.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
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